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Help Get hkSFV Listed at

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 1:12 am
by Big-O Mark
Big-O Software would like to gain more exposure for hkSFV. We feel that hkSFV is the best utility available for .SFV/.MD5, yet it seems as though hardly anyone knows it exists. The next logical step is to get hkSFV listed at C|Net's However, if you have ever tried to get a program listed there, you know it's unfortunately not even close to free.

If you enjoy hkSFV and want to help make it the #1 choice for .SFV/.MD5 file verification, please consider contributing to Big-O Software's hkSFV fund raiser. All proceeds will go to so hkSFV will be exposed to the enormous userbase of

If you would like to donate to this worthy cause, please visit the Big-O Software Donate page:

Please be sure to let us know that your contribution is for the hkSFV fund raiser!

If you are unwilling or unable to financially donate to the hkSFV fund raiser, but would still like to help, your assistance would still be useful! Please do anything you can to help spread the word about hkSFV. If you post on forums or newsgroups where .SFV/.MD5 or freeware programs are on topic, please mention hkSFV! If you run a website, please post an hkSFV link. The goal of this fund raiser is to gain more exposure for hkSFV, and small things like these will help get the job done.

Goal: $79
Current Status: $36

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 1:25 am
by DADINK13 there some sort of added perk Mark? :wink:

<is considering donating what little cash he can afford to donate>

Okay...all joking aside now...
I'm kinda assuming that the amount it costs to get listed on is $ I correct?

Although I really don't use hkSFV, I may know a bunch of people who would find it useful. I'll ask around if anybody could find a program like that useful. You and Ryan do a lot of hard work for hkSFV, and formerly AIM+, and surprisngly just today I was looking at the user reviews for AIM+ on, and it's got a 90% even though it does not work with AIM 5.x. That's a great amount of feedback for a peice of software no longer in development. If and when hkSFV gets listed and people find out it's as good as it seems (from what I've read, seeing how I don't use it), you'll have downloads up the wazoo for it.

If I can dig up some cash somehow you may get a donation from me--it's kinda hard to donate money when you're unemployed at the moment... :-?

But every penny counts. :)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:08 pm
by Big-O Mark
DADINK13 wrote:I'm kinda assuming that the amount it costs to get listed on is $ I correct?

Unfortunately, yes. While $79 may not seem like a whole lot of money, for a free program that actually incurs costs on our part (time, servers, isp, etc.), it's a lot for us to cough up.

Our 'status' of $30 actually reflects total donations for hkSFV since it was launched in the fall of 2001. We're still hoping to get up to $79 so we can get hkSFV listed on the mother of all software sites,

Thanks to everyone who has donated so far, and to those who haven't, please at least consider donating or helping spread the word about hkSFV all over the internet wherever you can :D.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:34 pm
by BigHead
but doesn't everytime u update the software cost u another $80

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:37 pm
by Master Jedi
I think will let you host the file yourself and they'll link to it so you can update on your own.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:37 pm
by Anthony
But then it is in the open... And they can put a auto update into the program...

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:49 pm
by Big-O Mark
BigHead wrote:but doesn't everytime u update the software cost u another $80

To update the listing it unfortunately does cost another $80.

However, when the program is first listed, the download is linked locally to our servers. Whenever the program is updated, the filename and download location do not change.

In the end, the listing becomes out dated, but will remain in their database because that first listing for $80 doesn't expire. The file will still be downloadable, and will be the most current version.

If you ever browse through, you'll notice that there will be entries for each version of some programs, and that's because their authors decided to pay another $80 listing to keep the description up to date.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:02 pm
by Anthony
Just don't make the download file name something like hkSFV13 (with the version name intergrated). People will no doubt get confused... Even though the IQ of users is higher then... Um... Some other programs.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:14 pm
by Big-O Mark
None of our programs' filenames have ever included the version number, and I doubt that will change any time soon ...

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:25 pm
by Anthony
Opps... :oops: I don't know what I was thinking :-?.

Re: Help Get hkSFV Listed at

PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 10:34 pm
by Big-O Mark
Big-O Mark wrote:Goal: $79
Current Status: $35

We're moving along nicely, almost half way to our goal of $79 to get hkSFV listed on!

Thanks again to all those who have donated so far, and remember, the goal of this campaign is to spread the word of hkSFV to as many potential users as possible. is the focus of our efforts. If you can't afford to help, or simply want to help more, just get the word out any way possible. Usenet, IRC, message boards, etc. are all great places to introduce hkSFV to those who have never heard of it.

Re: Help Get hkSFV Listed at

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2003 2:15 pm
by Big-O Mark
Big-O Mark wrote:Goal: $79
Current Status: $36

Another update for those interested ...

We're almost half way to our goal of $79 to get hkSFV listed at Unfortunately does not supply free listings for most software developers. However, is still an excellent way to reach millions of potential users.

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2003 2:33 pm
by Matt
Do all the other free program find places (such as tucows, fileforum, etc.) require you to pay? Or is it just being a capitalist hog?

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2003 2:45 pm
by Big-O Mark
I have had a lot of experiences with a lot of different file listing services on the internet.

My favorites are the ones that let you create an account, set up your listing, and then it's online immediately. Others require their staff to review a listing before they add it to their database, and when this is the case 90% of the time they don't bother to contact you at all. Sometimes these sites will offer a payment option that will get your listing online faster, and then an even higher rate to get it listed immediately.

The reason why this campaign is targetting is simple. It is by far the most highly visible and popular software search engine on the internet. That is also why they can charge for their listings, it's a great service for developers, and needs to cover their costs with so many users relying on their service to find software.

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2003 5:26 am
by insomica
have you heard of or i think they might only do open sorce progs but i'm not sure. but it might be worth checking out.