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Rose willing to admit to betting on baseball

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 11:15 am
by Big-O Mark
Report: Rose willing to admit to betting on baseball

ESPN.com news services

Wednesday, January 22

More than a month since news broke that commissioner Bud Selig was considering reinstating Pete Rose, Newsday is reporting that the all-time hits king has indicated to Selig that he's willing for the first time to admit he bet on baseball.

The newspaper cited a friend of Rose, who spoke on condition of anonymity, for the basis of its report. The report said Rose also would be willing to apologize for his betting denials the past 13 years and even serve a probationary period in order to gain reinstatement and Hall of Fame eligibility for 2004.

Rose's friend told Newsday that Rose is encouraged by progress in talks among Selig, Rose's lawyers and current Hall of Famers Mike Schmidt, Johnny Bench and Joe Morgan -- all former teammates of Rose -- and is confident an agreement can be finalized and announced within a couple months. Such an agreement would allow Rose to be reinstated in full, meaning he'd be permitted to work in baseball, as well as be eligible for Cooperstown induction.

One high-ranking baseball source told Newsday that any Rose probationary period of good behavior is expected to last "six to eight months," meaning there would be time for Rose to enter Cooperstown next summer. Rose agreed in 1989 to be banned permanently from the game.

A source told ESPN.com that Rose would be expected to "behave the right way" during the probationary period, in which he will be obligated to demonstrate true contrition.

Selig has been adamant in negotiations that Rose fulfill all three obligations: an admission, an apology and probation. Rose has consistently denied that he bet on baseball in the face of a mountain of evidence against him, including betting slips and phone logs between bookies and his ballpark office in Cincinnati in the 1980s.

Selig, reached by Newsday on Tuesday night at the Baseball Assistance Team dinner in New York where he was being honored, declined to comment on his negotiations with Rose's lawyers, except to say he hadn't talked to them in the past few days.

However, a source close to Selig told the newspaper things were "still on track" regarding Rose's reinstatement despite the commissioner insisting on an admission, an apology and probation.

The source also suggested things were pointing toward reinstatement terms being announced as early as spring training after Selig meets with a contingent of current Hall of Famers, but there's no certainty of that. A date for that meeting is still unscheduled but is expected to convene some time in February.

A source told ESPN.com that the meeting could be construed as "a courtesy" to the Hall of Famers, and that it's expected a surprising number will express serious reservations about Rose's reinstatement.

Rose's lawyer, Roger Makley, could not be reached by the newspaper Tuesday night.

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 12:05 pm
by DADINK13
Let him in Let him in Let him in Let him in Let him in Let him in Let him in Let him in Let him in ....

Pete Rose so deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. He still does hold the major league record for hits (I forgot what it is off the top of my head).

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2003 11:29 am
by Moon Child
He may deserve to be in the hall of fame, which based on his abilities is true. I do not however believe that someone should be reinstated once a lifetime ban has been placed. That's like saying we are going to overlook the illegal acts you have done and let you go on as if nothing had ever happened. He denied betting for years and agreed to the ban, but now that there is the possibility for reinstatement, he's admitting it. The lies were to those who had cheered him on and those who did not like him, and by apologizing they will act as if it never happened.

A lifetime ban should be just that, for a lifetime, no matter the wishes of the fans and other HOF members. If they backdown now, what's to say they won't for something more serious than gambling?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:00 am
by Big-O Mark
If Pete Rose goes in, I sure hope they consider other players who have received 'lifetime bans' as well. Shoeless Joe Jackson's career definitely would place him in the Hall if it weren't for his ban.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:08 am
by DADINK13
He sure would.


BTW...what is Rose's number for hits? I can't remember. :-?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:42 am
by Moon Child
4256