silly DeadAIM

[]DaT_MaNN03 · Post by **[]DaT_MaNN03** » Tue May 06, 2003 4:18 pm

Promise less, give more.

we dont want an AIM+ 3.0 fiasco

they are starting to get scared over at deadAIM

Michael · Post by **Michael** » Tue May 06, 2003 4:27 pm

Seems like they are just being prudent and trying to avoid the mess over here back in December.

ashtray · Post by **ashtray** » Tue May 06, 2003 4:33 pm

http://www.jdennis.net/forums/viewtopic ... 32ef4bc496

there's some interesting bits about people claiming that big-o's gonna start charging.

ksc218 wrote:
i just recently got my aim so i had to pay for it
soon your gonna have to pay for aim + too

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Tue May 06, 2003 4:56 pm

Ya sure... Even if Big-O did decide to start charging they wouldn't start until they had a version that was never freeware... People love to start rumors, that really are just stupid, and have no bearing.

If you have the most market share (for the entire life of the project) why would you rick that and start charging? Not as if that was not enough why would you charge if you #1 opponet started charging? "Dude you just got a larger market share".

Edit: I fogot a entire half of a sentence

[]DaT_MaNN03 · Post by **[]DaT_MaNN03** » Tue May 06, 2003 5:00 pm

i know i was laughin at the same post at deadaim about payin for aim+

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Tue May 06, 2003 5:54 pm

Don't you just love how they have to make things up to make themselves a little better...

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Tue May 06, 2003 6:43 pm

Ya know how many times I wanted to post there? I haven't made an acct because I dont think its right and also I know that Timeless or some other AIM+ user will say exactly what I would have said (I said Timeless because he is a frequent (at least from what I saw in that charging thread)). Also, by the time I take to make an acct, register, etc., someone else would beat me to posting what I would have said (in most cases)...so yea.

I was just laughing half the time when ppl were bashing DeadAIM because those same ppl were bashing AIM+ and they were saying "I'm goin back to AIM+." Its just hilarious is all...

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Tue May 06, 2003 7:05 pm

Ya... I like having a account just incase someone goes way off the limb... Some of the users seem quite polite towards Big-O-Software... And then you have..... The "others".

On my last post I flipped out about how high my post count was... And then realized it was only 3 total.

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Tue May 06, 2003 7:07 pm

I guess we all learned a lesson...

Timelessblur · Post by **Timelessblur** » Tue May 06, 2003 10:24 pm

i have a limit to how much rumors I and trash talk I willing to take. When they start attacking Big-O or AIM+ I figure it time to really say something. I try to stay tasteful and not drop to there leaval

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Wed May 07, 2003 5:24 am

... You just did ...

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Wed May 07, 2003 8:10 am

A lot of people from here are going over to the DeadAIM forums, and posting... Which is fine, but I would encourage you to not say any thing in a attacking or mean way. It makes us as a community look bad.

Sure you can say how you would never pay for DeadAIM, but calling the creators stupid and such is no way to go about this. Attacking their members (Even the ones they don't care for) is even more out of line.

I have never used DeadAIM for more then 30 mins and I doubt overall more then 2 hours, but I find it very rude for us to go over there and question their actions.

In short when you post over there don't post anything you would not have posted in the AIM+ 3.0 thread.

Master Jedi · Post by **Master Jedi** » Wed May 07, 2003 10:00 am

fRiEd2k3 (4:54:39 AM): Hello Are you there?

fRiEd2k3 (4:55:01 AM): JDennis.net are liars! Doing a WHOIS on the domain jdennis.net reveals the following;

Host name: www.jdennis.net
IP address: 134.225.60.5
whois whois.arin.net 134.225.60.5:
OrgName: Reading University
OrgID: READIN-1
Address: University of ReadingRG6-6AH
City:
StateProv:
PostalCode:
Country: GB
NetRange: 134.225.0.0 - 134.225.255.255

They are hosted on a university server (Reading University, where Jim Dennis is a student!) so they have $0 bandwidth costs, contrary to their reason for charging for DeadAIM downloads. Help spread the word!!!

Running a trace reveals:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 31 ms 25 ms 22 ms pop2-cha-P3-3.atdn.net [66.185.138.93]
5 19 ms 37 ms 21 ms bb2-cha-P0-1.atdn.net [66.185.138.82]
6 33 ms 25 ms 50 ms bb2-atm-P6-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.30]
7 43 ms 28 ms 28 ms pop2-atm-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.147.211]
8 26 ms 25 ms 27 ms level3.atdn.net [66.185.138.34]
9 25 ms 25 ms 26 ms so-5-2-0.mp2.Atlanta1.Level3.net [209.247.9.169]
10 39 ms 41 ms 54 ms so-0-1-0.bbr2.Washington1.level3.net [64.159.0.230]
11 110 ms 130 ms 136 ms so-0-0-0.mp2.London2.Level3.net [212.187.128.133]
12 125 ms 112 ms 110 ms pos5-0.hsipaccess1.London2.Level3.net [212.187.129.254]
13 109 ms 110 ms 108 ms 195.50.116.202
14 115 ms 114 ms 106 ms lond-scr2.ja.net [146.97.37.73]
15 119 ms 110 ms 137 ms po5-0.read-scr.ja.net [146.97.33.5]
16 115 ms 110 ms 110 ms po2-0.reading-bar.ja.net [146.97.35.78]
17 112 ms 123 ms 110 ms ureading-a.site.ja.net [146.97.40.70]
18 113 ms 111 ms 110 ms fw-ext.core-wk.rdg.ac.uk [134.225.254.2]
19 113 ms 130 ms 117 ms core-wk.dist-its.rdg.ac.uk [134.225.252.2]
20 111 ms 110 ms 111 ms hvpc20-60.rdg.ac.uk [134.225.60.5]

Note at hop 17 that the packet did pass into the university of reading network.

Timelessblur · Post by **Timelessblur** » Wed May 07, 2003 10:13 am

Some how I think there a lot more going on at the JDennis.net than they are telling there users but then again I dont uses DeadAIM because almost none of the features work on windows ME and all the bugs in it are only amplfided 10fold on my OS

jester22c · Post by **jester22c** » Wed May 07, 2003 10:18 am

Yeah I got the same IM...

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