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Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:36 am

If they did start charging extra at the ISP level it would have to be a lot, and to be fair it would have to not apply to dial-up (I mean how much can you possibly download (Even at 24/7) on dial-up?).

Timelessblur · Post by **Timelessblur** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:56 am

you have a good point phase. I could get may be 100 megs of stuff total a day on dail up. Then of coase on broad band I download a few gigs in 24 hours

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:46 am

Only a few? I can easily pull off 3 500 MB Red Hat images in a hour...

That's like... :does math: ... 180 GBs

... A lot more then a few...

Master Jedi · Post by **Master Jedi** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:47 pm

Max throughput for Cable modem: 1.25 MB/sec
Multiply by # of secs in a day: 86400
Result: Max throughput on cable 105.5 gigabytes per day

Typical: 20-30 GB/day

fuuucckkers · Post by **fuuucckkers** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:18 pm

harra wrote:A friend of mine that lives in Canada who works in the IT field stated that they have to pay a surcharge for blank CD-R/RW and DVD-R/RW media and cassette tapes. That surcharge is given to the recording industry because they have assumed that the greatest use for those types of blank media is to create copies of music.

I would have no problem if they instituted a surcharge on blank media and made the lawsuits go away. You'll still get an entire album of music for less than a buck a CD

I could be wrong.. and you may also be unaware, but they do this in our country already. (or so I've heard).

They just don't want to tell us about it, because it'll upset the customers.. and plus if we "don't know about it" -- thats another reason for the RIAA to attack people and get even more money.. (as they're currently doing.)

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:27 pm

Master Jedi wrote:Max throughput for Cable modem: 1.25 MB/sec
Multiply by # of secs in a day: 86400
Result: Max throughput on cable 105.5 gigabytes per day

Typical: 20-30 GB/day

:Laughs at your small throughput:

Rochester RR was just recently upgraded from 2.5 MBs/sec to 3

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fuuucckkers · Post by **fuuucckkers** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:29 pm

PhaseDMA wrote:
Master Jedi wrote:Max throughput for Cable modem: 1.25 MB/sec
Multiply by # of secs in a day: 86400
Result: Max throughput on cable 105.5 gigabytes per day

Typical: 20-30 GB/day
:Laughs at your small throughput:

Rochester RR was just recently upgraded from 2.5 MBs/sec to 3 .

Good god man!
Are you on standard?? Or Business Class??

I have Tampa Bay Road Runner
http://tampabay.rr.com - we're still around 1.5-2MB/sec I think.

although my friend has pulled 2MB/sec straight off the RR servers.. in their newsgroups.. downloading stuff.

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:31 pm

Standard!

My mom's BF told me of the upgrade, and I was quite shocked.

$45.99 a month - And that's with out cable TV from them (Which we might end up getting if Dish Network doesn't shape up).

Robpol86 · Post by **Robpol86** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:50 pm

$46 bux a month!?
WTF
b4 i moved from corpus (south texas), i had rr and i was gettin 3000/512, for only $35/mo!!

and we were paying for 2000/512, and oddly when we got rr, we also got hbo, starz, and shotime phreee, mysteriously

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:03 pm

The person that did you neglected to install the box on the lines then...

And RR has what seems to be very random prices for diffrent areas.

Master Jedi · Post by **Master Jedi** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:29 pm

The limit to cable modems is 10 megabit (1.25 megabytes per second). It CAN'T get any faster than that. It's not possible for the technology.

The fastest throughput I've had on cable is about 1.1 megabytes per second.

Jon8RFC · Post by **Jon8RFC** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:42 pm

Yeah, Master Jedi, they just put the capitalization where it needn't be. When they say 2.5MB/sec they actually mean 2.5Mb/sec aka 2,500Kbps or 312.5KBps or 0.305MBps...there's no way in hell they're getting even one megabyte a second on there steadily and you obviously know that hehe...just a miscommunication in terms

fuuucckkers · Post by **fuuucckkers** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:58 pm

Master Jedi wrote:The limit to cable modems is 10 megabit (1.25 megabytes per second). It CAN'T get any faster than that. It's not possible for the technology.

The fastest throughput I've had on cable is about 1.1 megabytes per second.

Tell that to my friend..
I've also seen it with my own eyes..
He was downloading some music from 'Alt.Binaries.Punk' on the RR Newsgroups... pulling 2MB a second.

BigHead · Post by **BigHead** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:27 pm

The maximum top spped of a cable modem is not 10mb/s but if it is connect via eathernet to your comper then it will be because most modems have a 10-baseT port and not a 100-baseT port

Master Jedi · Post by **Master Jedi** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 9:24 pm

x Wasted Mind x wrote:
Master Jedi wrote:The limit to cable modems is 10 megabit (1.25 megabytes per second). It CAN'T get any faster than that. It's not possible for the technology.

The fastest throughput I've had on cable is about 1.1 megabytes per second.
Tell that to my friend..
I've also seen it with my own eyes..
He was downloading some music from 'Alt.Binaries.Punk' on the RR Newsgroups... pulling 2MB a second.

No he wans't. Either it was reported incorrectly or it was being hosted on his intranetwork. Someone wanna check the cable modem RFC's? I think 2669 is one of them. I don't feel like looking. I've got better things to do than read RFC's.

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